Capcom doesn’t think the next generation of gaming begins with the Wii U

Nin⊙▂☉Tend0

And this is coming from the company who sells the beta version of all their fighting games and charges 50$ a piece for DLC to make the game complete… i call BS :P

Cryo5cythe

I agree, I’m sick of all this “Wii U is not a next-gen console” bull.

Jray

Oh sure, and I’m sure everyone will call Microsoft and Sony’s next console the “true next generation” because of specs that don’t even change up the gameplay, or even give you a newly innovative experience. Aren’t new generations supposed to differ in creativity? not just Specs? or is it just me who thinks that… :l

shockwave527

If graphics didn’t matter, no one would even think twice about Sony or Microsoft’s systems. Tell me: what innovative games do they have? What new play styles do they bring to the table that they didn’t steal from nintendo?
ddddd

You are not the only one for sure, but console generations have always been defined by processing power (even the wii was more powerful and had more hardware features than the previous gen).
Tails the Foxhound

NES, SNES, PS1, and PS2 disagree with you. They were the juggernauts of their respective gens and were all the weakest. The only anomaly is the 7th gen, and even then the Wii is still dominating in sales (the other two aren’t even close).
Relytgninroht

Actually, Sega normally had the weakest consoles. The Genesis was weaker than the SNES. The Saturn was weaker than the PS1. The Dreamcast was weaker than the PS2… Also, NES wasn’t the weakest console of it’s generation- it was close though. I believe the Casio PV-1000 was weaker than the NES.
Tails the Foxhound

I may have been wrong on 4th gen strengths and market share (i.e. I mixed up SNES and Genesis’ position of market leader and weaker console), I haven’t actually actively researched that gen. However, most of my point still stands as NES and PS1 & 2 still weren’t the strongest machine on the market and still had more market share than an.
ddddd

All those consoles were many times more powerful than the previous generations. It doesnt matter who “won”, all the console generations have been separated by hardware advancements, even wii is more powerful overall than the 6th gen consoles.
Tails the Foxhound

I see your point, it seems I took your text too literally. You said “defined by processing power”. This is factually inaccurate due to a multitude of things. However that wasn’t your point at all. My bad I guess, lol.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/3204673/ GameManiac

That type of narrow-minded ideology is just absurd.

What good is raw processing and graphical power if you can’t CONTROL it? What good is it if you don’t maximize it, if your ideas aren’t creative enough to support it?

Just look at Nintendo, a company that focuses on gameplay before graphics, and stands above the competition.

Diego

Well, technically the next gen begun with the 3DS and PS Vita later, but as for consoles… eff you capcom!

Hybrilynx

hey isnt this that, it is, they cancelled megaman.

zcake

theres a misunderstanding in the translation from Japanese to English, they are just suggesting that next gen doesnt fully start until ALL 3 CONSOLES are on the market. which is fair enough and TRUE .
of course wiiu is next gen . is the 3ds a gen behind the vita ????

Snake

No the 3DS is in the same gen as the Vita. A Generation isn’t started by power it’s the new console/handheld life cycle.
Relytgninroht

He wasn’t saying it was- he was trying to prove a point. He was insinuating that the 3DS was the first next gen handheld to launch, and is a next generation handheld alongside the Vita.

Mhmm

This basically means the Next Generation doesn’t start with Wii U right away. Once the other two come out, then we will truly be in the Next Generation.

Not Important

While I disagree with the assumption that the Wii U will be vastly under-powered in comparison to the other next gen-consoles; I don’t believe this is Capcom taking a shot at the Wii U’s power. I merely think this is Capcom saying that until Sony and Microsoft’s consoles are released, the multi-platform games will not truly be next-gen as they are often built on the weakest system and ported elsewhere (to avoid extra costs) ex. see PS3 exclusives vs. multi-platform games. Meanwhile, I feel the first-party titles and other exclusives should definitely be considered next-gen games, as will the multi-platform Wii U games of the future.

abe

I suspect the next gen machines from Sony and MS will be somewhat more powerful but comparable to WiiU and games will be easily scalable. A hint to the WiiU’s future can be seen in the discs it uses 25gig, the 360 currently uses 8gig DVD

XypherCode

The guy did not say directly that Wii U is not the start of “next-gen”. I think that he’s implying that while the other two companies has yet to fully reveal, let alone release their new consoles, the next-gen won’t start. Basically the current generation of consoles is still very much active and that is one major factor. PS3/360 and even some Wii games are still being released. Nintendo already has DLC on 3DS and Wii U. For the “time is required”, of course next-gen GAMES needs time to be developed. Devs needs time to be familiar with the hardware. Next-gen offerings will be available once the other next-gen systems are available not to mention their games. So I really think setting this on stone that “Capcom doesn’t think the next generation of gaming begins with the Wii U” is not very wise and that quote could mean anything if misinterpreted.

Tails the Foxhound

That’s pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Much more eloquently put though.
Kurei

Yes the title is mis-leading. Whereas other companies openly say or its obvious that they don’t consider Wii-U next-gen, Capcom did say, “in earnest”.

Odd how a Nintendo-focused site can get that wrong, other sites must be twisting that to something god-awful by now.
Critical Tiger

We can only imagine what some Xbox forums twisted the words into

AxGamer

I just simply dont like capcom anymore.They canceled 2 megaman games in a row and now they doubt the Wii U!Way to go crapcom i hate you.

Wolf

Never really liked Capcom or their business practices. This doesn’t surprise me very much at all.

AxGamer

And what also annoys me is people judging games and systems by their graphics and not by gameplay and concept. That truely saddens me.

AxGamer

The Golden Rule of Gaming
Though shall not judge a game system by processing power and instead should judge by fun factor and ingenuity.

Bill Cosby

“time is required before the next generation console cycle begins in earnest.”

Translation: The next generation console cycle will not fully begin until all the players are on the field.

http://PolyKhromeGames.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

Zip zop zoobity bop, I think you’re right.

http://www.facebook.com/jared.lowder.3 Jared Lowder

If the Wii U is not next gen, then it will heavily influence next gen consoles.

Daniel Bryan

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

2+2+4

it has nothing to do with power ITS MARKETING JESUS TRY THINKING LIKE ADULTS INSTEAD OF MINDLESS CHILDREN ITS ANTI MARKETING make sony and ms fanboy feel special by slandering NINTENDO this has been the way since the 1980s wakey wakey rise and shine ,there making hardlycore fanboy feel better its a way of saying YEAH COOL WAIT FOR YOUR SPECIAL SONY OR MS we shall support it

its a blatent lie just like RESIDENT EVIL 5 MENU SCREEN WOULDNT RUN ON Wii its a marketing lie at mindless teeny sony ms fanboys who can only be marketed to by NEGATIVITY

Just Saying

I find it ironic you are saying ”
TRY THINKING LIKE ADULTS INSTEAD OF MINDLESS CHILDREN” and using the term fanboy in the same rant.

Relytgninroht

I don’t think they are trying to diss on the Wii U. I think they’re basically saying that the next generation won’t start with the launch of the Wii U- the other consoles are still going strong. When the Xbox 360 launched, a lot of it’s games were improved Xbox ports- that changed not long after the other next gen consoles launched. The Wii U is basically launching in the beginning of the transition.

NeonNerd

This is what I was just about to put

bassment_boy

once again the rubbish that is eurogamer states drama comments, they are talking about sales and from all next gen systems not just one. If you look they said the same thing 7 years ago with xbox360. This is getting annoying now stop posting this rubbish!

Gamer Blue

Sounds to me like Capcom’s body isn’t ready.

kresslia

Why is everyone misunderstanding this? I feel like we’re reaching to make this something negative when all they’re saying is the next cycle doesn’t really truly “begin” until this current gen dies out.

http://www.facebook.com/JonathanRider Johnny Rider

Well I’m pretty sure every generation in the past has begun with the release of a new console. Such as the current gen started the day the 360 was released. The day the Wii U is released is the exact day the 8th gen begins. Thus meaning 360 and PS3 will be last gen beginning this year.

crash

Remember, Capcom is the biggest slacker company of all, if any company can talk about the next generation of consoles, Capcom is the last one.

komicturtle

Their reason- because it’s Nintendo, not Microsoft or Sony.

Diamond Ammo

It begins with pc, pc was next gen SEVEN YEARS AGO, because pc is always ONE generation ahead

Ur Mom

Wrong, they don’t think Next-Gen starts with Wii U because they still have stuff to release for 360 and PS3. Next-Gen will start when all of the consoles are release, and they shift to full Next Gen development

Nintyfan10

Capcom, and DLC don’t mix.

Hybrilynx

what does next generation of gaming mean anyway?

Deboog

I can’t decide which is funnier. Capcom or David. Both are two pretty big extremes.

http://PolyKhromeGames.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

While I do think this article’s reference was rather misinterpreted and the title of this particular Wii U Blog post was misleading as a result of it, I do still think that Capcom’s one of the last companies that should be talking about when the next-gen console cycle truly begins in earnest, seeing that even when it does begin “in earnest,” they’ll rely heavily on developing incomplete experiences and recycled games.

To me, next-generation gaming should be about fuller, more complete gaming experiences, not half-done games that rely on DLC to complete it and marketed to look like some kind of “bonus.” Greater horsepower is good and all, but if you don’t use that horsepower to deliver fuller and original experiences, then there’s really no point to the horsepower. Otherwise, the games will just be glorified crap.

If you don’t deliver that much in terms of fuller and richer original experiences, then all one is really doing is offering the same kind of incomplete gaming experiences we often see today done with prettier graphics. That’s not advancing gaming much in itself. Unless they change the way they create games, they’ll only continue to deliver regressive gaming experiences on more advanced machines.

Furthermore, to other companies who actually have just come out and said Wii U is not “next-gen,” I think the Wii U already already demonstrates that, in the right and willing hands, it’s more than capable of developing such fuller, more complete experiences while offering some new and truly engaging ways to enjoy games.

Enigma

The tablet controller is supposed to enhance gameplay in a meaningful enough way, and deliver more “full” and “original” experiences? Gameplay will be able to be just as good on the other upcoming next gen consoles then the Wii U. Perhaps even better, because of the increased RAM that I am fairly certain they will have.

Higher memory equals more things happening in the game at once, like more advanced weather, smarter als, bigger maps. You know, gameplay related things. More horsepower doesn’t just enhance graphics.

I have never really understood the “regressive gaming experiences on more advanced machines” kind of thing that people are always complaining about. Sure, there are some games that sell off of just or mostly graphics, but not many. Gameplay is always being innovated and enhanced everywhere. Just look at Darksiders 2, Skyrim, Mass Effect, Dishonored, and much, much more. I just don’t see it.
http://PolyKhromeGames.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

Yeah, I know horsepower doesn’t just enhance graphics. My point wasn’t against horsepower–it was against considering horsepower alone as sufficiently “next-gen.” Part of the point I made there was that half of the time, increased horsepower goes wasted on prettier crappy games–developers tend to rely on the appeal of horsepower to the point of ignoring creativity and more original ideas.

I do welcome horsepower, mind you, but I just think that it can’t be the entire focus for a console, and nor can Capcom fairly say that the next-gen console doesn’t start in earnest with the Wii U’s arrival. I say, next-gen started with me when I saw that Project P-100 demo–I haven’t seen anything like that game before (except maybe the Pikmin series). I don’t think that even with the arrival of a potential PS4 or new Xbox that will necessarily see anything “next-generation” in terms of enhancing the actual way we play games. If it’s not doing much to refresh the gaming experience, then I would say it’s “next-generation” in name alone, and not so much in concept.

Also, advanced weather, smarter AI, bigger maps don’t necessarily make the game mechanics itself better, either. Give a Call of Duty gamer dynamic weather, bigger maps, and and smarter AI, and really nothing else much beyond that, and it’s still a Call of Duty game.

Make a Call of Duty game where I get to draw out quick tactics schematics in real-time for all my friends to see on the GamePad controllers and to design maps with an in-game height map editor and using texture packs downloaded from the built-in browser on the GamePad, and all of a sudden, I’m caring about a Call of Duty game after a long, long while.
http://PolyKhromeGames.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

@ Enigma:

As for your examples of games that are always being innovated and enhance:

I’m sad that you listed Darksiders 2 as being among them, because I find that game to be one of the most generic and overrated games ever mentioned anywhere this year in gaming. That’s one of the poorest example of a game being called innovative I’ve heard all year. I really don’t get the fuss over it. It’s God of War-meets-Zelda, and somehow, it seems to fail in measuring up to either of those franchises. I’ve seen better character design work from my man JoeMad. And not to hail graphics as the most important thing, but the game’s quasi-cel-shaded graphics looks on par with an early Xbox 360 game. I follow the assets creation of this game from several of the game’s artists themselves (on a site called Polycount, where I interact with other developers in the game dev industry), and compared other work from this game’s artists, the art direction in this game is rather mediocre.

Skyrim is definitely enhanced (it’s freakin’ huge), and Bethesda just plain rocks when it comes to DLC (take notes, Capcom), but I don’t know if I would call it innovative gameplay. It’s definitely big, definitely a fine piece of work of the power of procedurally-generated content (an automated process for algorithmically generating those huge terrains from predefined assets, in case you’re wondering), and there’s tons of playability, but in terms of actual game mechanics, it’s not innovative as a game. It doesn’t even really have a good sense of story. But that’s okay, because it’s not trying to be. It does well what it shoots to be–big, open playability. We just want travel across tons of place, carry tons of weapons, to put on tons of DLC costumes, and to kill dragons and wild lions, and that’s exactly all what they delivered with Skyrim.

Mass Effect is one I can agree on about featuring innovation and enhanced experience to its actual gameplay when compared to so many other games. Though, the innovations kinda waned to some degree by the third game, and didn’t really alter too much beyond the first game. But I won’t question the series much beyond that here.

Dishonored is particularly creative for the first-person genre in terms of its art direction and character designs, but again, I’m not sure one could fairly call it “innovative.” To be honest, we’ve seen the exact same gameplay mechanics in games like Infamous and . Let’s be honest–the game’s essentially BioShock with the “superpowered protagonist involved with the quiet little girl” thing, Assassin’s Creed with the whole stealth assassination thing, and Infamous with the whole superpowers the-world-is-your-playground sandbox thing. In fact, the only thing original about the game is its sailors-meets-steampunk style. I don’t particularly applaud this game from an innovative standpoint, though it does make for an interesting mix of preexisting franchises.

You’re kinda proving my point with these games you listed.

Enigma

“They must still be stuck in the mindset of raw power being the only determining factor. Pity.”

You saying that the Wii U has something meaningful to offer that will make up for it’s lower power this gen? That tablet controller? Really?

Total911

Of course Capcom would mention DLC as the main invigorator.

idk

What makes the wiiU next gen to begin with? Everything its offering has already been put I’m the current gen,other than the controller and even many of the games for the wiiU are re-releases…

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